Isaiah 8:20 |
If any man want light, let him look upon the law and the testimony whether they speak not after this meaning. |
Psalms 100:5 |
For the LORD is gracious, his mercy is everlasting, and his truth endureth from generation to generation. |
Isaiah 45:9-10 |
9Woe be unto him that chideth with his maker, the potsherd with the potter: Sayeth the clay to the potter: What makest thou? or thy work serveth for nothing? 10Woe be unto him, that sayeth to his father: Why begettest thou? And to his mother: Why bearest thou? |
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... covetousness is the root of all evil ..
... Lord of life ..
... this fold .. one flock,
... intent, that none that believe in him, should perish: But should have everlasting life.
... seat of mercy ..
... profession of our hope ..
... noblest among them of Thessalonia ..
... scripture came never by the will of man..
... On a Sabbath day ..
... In some Sabbath day ..
... devout .. devotion
... Christ is to me life, and death is to me advantage.
... Lord over the kings ..
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1Co 2:14 For the natural man perceiveth not the things of the spirit of God: For they are but foolishness unto him. Neither can he perceive them because he is spiritually examined: <|can not perceive it: for it must be spiritually discerned|> 1Co 2:15 but he that is spiritual discusseth all things: yet he himself is judged of no man. 1Co 2:16 For who knoweth the mind of the Lord, other who shall inform him? but we understand the mind of Christ. |
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heman wrote: |
1 Cor 2:14 But he animal man does not receive the things of the spirit of the God: for to him it is foolishness and because it is spiritually examined he is not able to know. 1 Cor 2:15 But the spiritual examines all things himself but is examined by no one. 1 Cor 2:16 For who has known the mind of the Lord? Who instrusts him? But we have the mind of the Anointed. The above in blue is from the most ancient and complete manuscript known as the Codex Vaticanus (B), late 2nd or early 3rd Century! |
Isaiah 8:20 |
If any man want light, let him look upon the law and the testimony whether they speak not after this meaning. |
Deuteronomy 30:10-14 |
10If thou hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and ordinances which are written in the book of this law, if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart and all thy soul. 11For the commandment which I command thee this day, is not separated from thee neither far off. 12It is not in heaven, that thou needest to say: who shall go up for us into heaven, and fetch it us, that we may hear it and do it: 13Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say: who shall go over sea for us and fetch it us that we may hear it and do it. 14But the word is very nigh unto thee: even in thy mouth and in thine heart, that thou do it. |
Proverbs 30:4 |
Who hath climbed up into heaven? Who hath come down from thence? Who hath holden the wind fast in his hand? Who hath comprehended the waters in a garment? Who hath set all the ends of the world? What is his name, or his son's name? Canst thou tell? |
1 Corinthians 1:19-21 |
19For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise and will cast away the understanding of the prudent. 20Where is the wise man? where is the scribe? where is the searcher of this world? Hath not God made the wisdom of this world foolishness? 21For when the world thorow wisdom knew not God, in the wisdom of God: it pleased God thorow foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. |
Jeremiah 8:8-9 |
8How dare ye say then: we are wise, we have the law of the LORD among us? Behold, the deceitful pen of the scribes, setteth forth lies: 9therefore shall the wise be confounded, they shall be afraid and taken: for lo, they have cast out the word of the LORD: what wisdom can then be among them? |
1 Corinthians 3:19-20 |
19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written: he compasseth the wise in their craftiness. 20And again, God knoweth the thoughts of the wise that they be vain. |
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Only because something is completely older, doesn't mean that it is more truthful. (see post: Ps. 68:27 DILIGENCIA in reverence to the Sovereign LORd) According to the prophets the truth comes to light just by the law and the testimony passed faithfully from generation to generation.
Yea and i perceive before it was even written, it was completely passed orally via godly costumes. And i pray that today more than ever the Lord mightily shew his verity thorow his spirit (without even the need of anything written) to put all those worldly scholars to shame.
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John 5:39-47 |
39Search the scriptures, for in them, ye think ye have eternal life: And they are they which testify of me. 40And yet will ye not come to me that ye might have life. 41I receive not praise of men: 42But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. 43I am come in my father's name, and ye receive me not. If another shall come in his own name, him will ye receive. 44How can ye believe, which receive praise one of another, and seek not the praise which cometh of God only? 45Suppose not, that I will accuse you to my father. There is one that accuseth you, verily Moses in whom ye trust. 46For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: For he wrote of me. 47But when ye believe not his writing: how shall ye believe my words. |
Psalms 118:8 |
It is better to trust in the LORD, than to put any confidence in man. |
Jeremiah 17:7-8 |
7O Blissed is the man, that putteth his trust in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is himself. 8For he shall be as a tree, that is planted by the water side: which spreadeth out the root unto moistness, whom the heat can not harm, when it cometh, but his leaves are green. And though there grow but little fruit because of drought, yet is he not careful, but he never leaveth off to bring forth fruit. |
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Believe in whom?
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Luke 24:1-53 |
1On the morrow after the Sabbath, early in the morning, they came unto the tomb and brought the odours which they had prepared, and other women with them. 2And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre, 3and went in: but found not the body of the Lord Jesu. 4And it happened, as they were amazed thereat: lo two men stood by them, in shining vestures. 5And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth: they said to them: why seek ye the living among the dead? 6He is not here: but is risen. Remember how he spake unto you, when he was yet with you in Galilee, 7saying: that the son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again. 8And they remembered his words, 9and returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all other. 10It was Mary Magdalene and Joanna, and Mary Jacobi; And other that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles, 11and their words seemed unto them feigned things, neither believed they them. 12Then arose Peter and ran unto the sepulchre, and stooped in; And saw the linen clothes laid by themself. And departed wondering in himself at that which had happened. 13And behold, two of them went that same day to a town, which was from Jerusalem about three score furlongs, called Emaus: 14and they talked together of all these things that had happened. 15And it chanced, as they communed together, and reasoned, that Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. 16But their eyes were holden, that they could not know him. 17And he said unto them: What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another as ye walk, and are sad? 18And the one of them named Cleopas, answered, and said unto him: art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which have chanced therein in these days? 19To whom he said: what things? And they said unto him: of Jesus of Nazareth which was a prophet, mighty in deed, and word, before God, and all the people. 20And how the high priests, and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death: and have crucified him. 21 We trusted that it should have been he that should have delivered Israel. And as touching all these things, today is even the third day, that they were done. 22Yea and certain women also of our company made us astonied, which came early unto the sepulchre, 23and found not his body. And came saying, that they had seen visions of angels which said that he was alive. 24And certain of them which were with us, went their way to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not. 25And he said unto them: O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken. 26Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? 27And he began at Moses, and at all the prophets, and interpreted unto them, in all scriptures which were written of him. 28And they drew nigh unto the town which they went to. And he made, as though he would have gone further. 29And constrained him, saying: Abide with us for it draweth towards night, and the day is far passed. And he went in to tarry with them. 30And it came to pass as he sat at meat with them, he took bread and blessed it, and brake it and gave it unto them. 31And their eyes were opened. And they knew him. And he vanished out of their sight, 32and they said between themselves: did not our hearts burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and opened to us the scriptures? 33And they rose up the same hour, and returned again to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, 34saying: The Lord is risen in deed, and hath appeared to Simon. 35And they told what things was done in the way, and how they knew him, by the breaking of bread. 36As they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and said unto them: peace be with you. ([It is I, fear not]) 37And they were abashed, and afraid, supposing that they had seen a spirit. 38And he said unto them: Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39Behold my hands and my feet. For it is even I myself. Handle me and see. For spirits have not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands, and his feet. 41And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them: Have ye here any meat? 42and they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. 43And he took it, and ate it before them. 44And he said unto them: These are the words, which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you: that all must be fulfilled which were written of me in the law of Moses, and in the Prophets, and in the Psalms. 45Then opened he their wits, that they might understand the scriptures, 46and said unto them: Thus is it written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise again from death the third day. 47And that repentance, and remission of sins, should be preached in his name among all nations. And the beginning must be at Jerusalem. 48And ye are witnesses of these things. 49And behold, I will send the promise of my father upon you. But tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. 50And he led them out into Bethany, and lift up his hands, and blest them. 51And it came to pass, as he blessed them, he departed from them, and was carried up into heaven. 52And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy. 53And were continually in the temple, praising, and lauding God. Here endeth the Gospell off Sainct Luke. |
1 Corinthians 1:19-29 |
19For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise and will cast away the understanding of the prudent. 20Where is the wise man? where is the scribe? where is the searcher of this world? Hath not God made the wisdom of this world foolishness? 21For when the world thorow wisdom knew not God, in the wisdom of God: it pleased God thorow foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22For the jews require a sign, and the greeks seek after wisdom. 23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the jews an occasion of falling and unto the greeks foolishness: 24but unto them which are called both of jews and greeks we preach Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 25For Godly foolishness is wiser than men: And Godly weakness is stronger than are men. 26Brethren look on your calling how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many of high degree are called: 27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world, to confound the wise. And hath chosen the weak things of the world, to confound things which are mighty. 28And vile things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen yea and things of no reputation, for to bring to nought things of reputation, 29that no flesh should rejoice in his presence. |
JAdmin wrote: |
What edification do the omitions on that old manuscript provide?
According to the gospel accounts in unison, the quoted passage with everything included more precicely gives the whole picture. |
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Moreover, who are we to say.. if some manuscripts were shorten (due to the fact that back then it was tediously hand written, and a shorter scroll was perhaps somehow more convenient) .. notwithstanding, i perceive that it's message would only keep it's weight with the help of the wholy ghost, as i hope it is the case with your devout understanding thereof. I perceive that the author of verity is not limited to manuscripts (or even the original English translation) that amazingly circulated til today.. And even without needing the help of any worldly organization, institution, or a bunch of carnal men for that matter.
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Jadmin wrote: |
What edification do the omitions on that old manuscript provide?
According to the gospel accounts in unison, the quoted passage with everything included more precicely gives the whole picture. |
heman wrote: |
1 IN THE FIRST OF THE SABBATH (this signifies the 1st day of the Sabbath) 1On the morrow after the Sabbath? and other women with them ( not after the Sabbath and It does not say "other women with them") |
Matthew 28:1 |
The Sabbath day at even which dawneth the morrow after the Sabbath, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the sepulchre. |
Mark 16:1-2 |
1And when the Sabbath day was past, Mary Magdalen, and Mary Jacobi, and Salome, bought ointments, that they might come and anoint him. 2And early in the morning the next day after the Sabbath day, they came unto the sepulchre, when the sun was risen. |
Luke 24:1 |
On the morrow after the Sabbath, early in the morning, they came unto the tomb and brought the odours which they had prepared, and other women with them. |
John 20:1 |
The morrow after the Sabbath day came Mary Magdalene early when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and saw the stone rolled away from the tomb. |
heman wrote: |
4 in a QUANDARY (they were "amazed" is quite different from in a quandary (perplexed state-confused) |
heman wrote: |
ATTIRE LIKE FLASHING LIGHTNING (in shining vestures. esqhsiV 2067 Clothing, attire. astr?aptw 797 To flash lightning.) and meaning that the 2 men looked as though they glowed brightly with eminence and would be more significant "than shining vestures". |
Matthew 22:12 |
and said unto him: Friend, how camest thou in hither, and * hast not on a wedding garment? and he was even speechless. *[til here the text is from Tyndale's Cologne quarto fragment 1525; the text thereafter is from the Worms octavo edition of 1526.] |
Matthew 27:61 |
And there was Mary Magdalene and the other Mary sitting over against the sepulchre. |
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John 20 adds the "FISH" story in the sea of Tiberias and (NO ASCENSION?) |
John 13:1 |
Before the feast of ester when Jesus knew that his hour was come, that he should depart out of this world unto the father. When he loved his which were in the world, unto the end he loved them. |
John 14:16-18 |
16and I will pray the father, and he shall give you another comforter, that he may bide with you ever, 17which is the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive, because the world seeth him not, neither knoweth him. But ye know him. For he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18I will not leave you comfortless: I will come unto you. |
John 14:28 |
Ye have heard how I said unto you: I go and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would verily rejoice, because I said, I go unto the father. For the father is greater than I. |
John 16:4-11 |
4 These things have I told you, that when that hour is come, ye might remember then, that I told you so. These things said I not unto you at the beginning, because I was present with you. 5But now go I my way to him that sent me, and none of you asketh me: whither goest thou? 6but because I have said such things unto you, your hearts are full of sorrow. 7Nevertheless I tell you the truth it is expedient for you that I go away. For if I go not away, that comforter will not come unto you. But if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8And when he is come, he will rebuke the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement. 9Of sin, because they believe not on me: 10Of righteousness, because I go to my father, and ye shall see me no more: 11And of judgement, because the chief ruler of this world, is judged all ready. |
Ephesians 4:9-16 |
9That he ascended: what meaneth it, but that he also descended first into the lowest parts of the earth? 10He that descended, is even the same also that ascended up, even above all heavens, to fulfil all things. 11And the very same, made some Apostles, some Prophets, some Evangelists, some Shepherds, some Teachers: 12that the saints might have all things necessary to work and minister withal, to the edifying of the body of Christ, 13till we everyeachone (in the unity of faith, and knowledge of the son of God) grow up unto a perfect man, after the measure of age which is in the fullness of Christ: 14That we henceforth be no more children wavering and carried with every wind of doctrine, by the wiliness of men and craftiness, whereby they lay a wait for us to deceive us. 15But let us follow the truth in love, and in all things grow in him which is the head, that is to say Christ, 16in whom all the body is coupled and knit together, in every joint, wherewith one ministereth to another (according to the operation as every part hath his measure) and increaseth the body, unto the edifying of itself in love. |
Jadmin wrote: |
21:25 There are also many other things which Jesus did: the which if they should be written every one, I suppose the world could not contain the books that should be written. |
heman wrote: |
John tells the FISH story, no one else includes this story. |
heman wrote: |
Mark ends at 16:8 and 16:9-20 is not included . |
Mark 16:19 |
So then when the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. |
Luke 24:50-51 |
50And he led them out into Bethany, and lift up his hands, and blest them. 51And it came to pass, as he blessed them, he departed from them, and was carried up into heaven. |
heman wrote: |
Never the less giving rise to the character of Christ, it is without doubt that we hope in the resurrection to eternal life! |
Job 19:23-29 |
23O that my words were written, O that they were put in a book: 24would God they were graven with an iron pen in lead or in stone. 25For I am sure, that my redeemer liveth, and that I shall rise out of the earth in the latter day: 26that I shall be clothed again with this skin, and see God in my flesh. 27Yea I my self shall behold him, not with other but with these same eyes. My reins are consumed within me, 28when ye say: Why do not we persecute him? We have found an occasion against him. 29But beware of the sword, for the sword will be avenged of wickedness, and be sure, that there is a judgement. |
heman wrote: |
Howbeit: 1Pe 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. 1Jo 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. |
Galatians 2:3-4 |
3Also Titus which was with me, though he were a greek, yet was not compelled to be circumcised, 4and that because of incomers being false brethren, which came in among others to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage. |
1 Corinthians 6:12 |
All things are lawful unto me: but all things are not profitable. I may do all things: but I will be brought under no man's power. |
1 Peter 1:22-25 |
22And forasmuch as ye have purified your souls thorow the spirit, in obeying the truth for to love brotherly without feigning, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23for ye are born a new, not of mortal seed, but of immortal seed, by the word of God which liveth, and lasteth for ever, 24because that all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man is as the flower of grass, the grass is withered, and the flower is faded away, 25but the word of the Lord endureth ever. And this is the word which by the gospel was preached among you. |
1 Peter 2:1-2 |
1Wherefore lay a side all maliciousness, and all guile, and dissimulation, and envy, and all backbiting: 2and as new born babes, desire that reasonable milk which is without corruption, that ye may be grown therein. ([thereby unto salvation]) |
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