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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rom 12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger feed him: if he thirst, give him drink. For in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head:
Rom 12:21 Be not overcome of evil: But overcome evil with goodness.
The true Christian understands that the way he lives and conducts his life has a great bearing upon whether he will inherit the Kingdom of God (Galatians 5:19-21).


Gal 5:22 but the fruit of the spirit is, love, joy, peace, longsuffering gentleness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness, temperancy:{temperance.}
Gal 5:23 Against such there is no law.

Luk 6:37 Judge not and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not: and ye shall not be condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.
Luk 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosoms. For with what measure ye mete, with the same shall men mete<shall it be measured> to you again.
Luk 6:39 And he put forth a similitude unto them: Can the blind lead the blind? Do they not both then fall into the ditch?
Luk 6:40 The disciple is not above his master. Every man shall be perfect, even as his master is.
Luk 6:41 Why seest thou a mote in thy brother's eye, and considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Luk 6:42 Other{Either} how canst thou say to thy brother: Brother let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye: when thou perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Hypocrite, cast out the beam out of thine own eye first, and then shalt thou see perfectly,<clearly> to pull out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Luk 6:43 It is not a good tree that bringeth forth evil fruit: Neither is that an evil tree, that bringeth forth good fruit.
Luk 6:44 For every tree is known by his fruit. Neither of thorns gather men figs, nor of bushes gather they grapes.
Luk 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good. And the{an} evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart, bringeth forth that which is evil. For of the abundance of the heart, the{his} mouth{mought} speaketh.
1 Corinthians 8:22If anyone imagines that he has come to know and understand much [of divine things, without love], he does not yet perceive and recognize and understand as strongly and clearly, nor has he become as intimately acquainted with anything as he ought or as is necessary.

Jude 1:15-19) 15To execute judgment upon all and to convict all the impious (unholy ones) of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed [in such an] ungodly [way], and of all the severe (abusive, jarring) things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.
16These are inveterate murmurers (grumblers) who complain [of their lot in life], going after their own desires [controlled by their passions]; their talk is boastful and arrogant, [and they claim to] admire men's persons and pay people flattering compliments to gain advantage.
17But you must remember, beloved, the predictions which were made by the apostles (the special messengers) of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).
18They told you beforehand, In the last days (in the end time) there will be scoffers [who seek to gratify their own unholy desires], following after their own ungodly passions.
19It is these who are [agitators] setting up distinctions and causing divisions--merely sensual [creatures, carnal, worldly-minded people], devoid of the [Holy] Spirit and destitute of any higher spiritual life.

Eph 6:12 For our test is not against flesh and blood, but with governments, with the authorities, with the rulers of this world who permeate the darkness, with the spiritual things of the wicked in the heavenlies.

James 4:1 ? Whence wars and whence fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your pleasures that war in your members?
2 Ye strongly desire, and have not: ye murder, and you are zealous, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask wickedly, so that ye may waste it upon your pleasures.
4 Adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? if whoever therefore may wish to be a friend of the world is rendered the enemy of God.

2Co 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, our army is not according to flesh:4 (For the armor of our warfare is not fleshly, but mighty in God to the ruin of fortifications;)
5 Lowering reasonings, and every height exalted against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 Andin preperationhaving to punish every disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

1Pe 2:15 Thus so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may muzzle the ignorance of unwise men:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sword is drawn, even nigh your throat likewise!

1Pe 4:16 If any man suffer as a Christian man, let him not be ashamed: but let him glorify <|praise|> God on this <his> behalf.
1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgement must begin at the house of God. If it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them which believe not the gospel <gospell> of God?
1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved: where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God, commit their souls to him with well doing, as unto a faithful creator.


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1 Corinthians 8:22If anyone imagines that he has come to know and understand much [of divine things, without love], he does not yet perceive and recognize and understand as strongly and clearly, nor has he become as intimately acquainted with anything as he ought or as is necessary.


There is only one true LOVE as John acknowledged:

2Jo 1:6 And this is the love, that we should walk after his commandments. This commandment is (that as ye have heard from the beginning) ye should walk in it. <|walk therein|>
(i.e. Mt. 5-7, Lk. 6 The commandments as declared by Christ the Lord)
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into <|are come in to|> the world, which confess not that Jesus Christ is como <(as coming, or returning)> in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jo 1:8 Look on yourselves, that we loose not that we have wrought: but that we may have <|receive|> a full reward.
2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth and bideth not <|abideth not|> in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that endureth <|abideth|> in the doctrine of Christ, hath both the father, and the son.
2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you and bring not this learning, <|doctrine|> him receive not to house: neither bid him God speed. <|nether salute him|>
2Jo 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed, <|saluteth him|> is partaker of his evil deeds. ([Behold, I have told you before, that ye should not be ashamed in the day of the lorde.])

As did WT in a prologue:
"He that saith he knoweth Christ and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar. To know Christ is to believe in Christ. Ergo he that keepeth not the commandments, believeth not in Christ."

As did Paul adknowledge with much earnest love:

1Co 16:22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, the same be anathema maranatha.

2Ti 3:1 This understand, <|But this shalt thou know|> that in the last days shall come parlous times:
2Ti 3:2 For the men shall be lovers of their own selves, <|men which shall hold of them selves|> covetous, boasters, proud, cursed speakers, disobedient to father and mother, <|their elders|> unthankful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 churlish, <unkind, trucebreakers> stubborn, false accusers, rioters, fierce, despisers of them which are good,
2Ti 3:4 traitors, heady, high minded, greedy upon voluptuousness more than the lovers of God,
2Ti 3:5 having a similitude <|a shine|> of godly living, but have denied <|but denying|> the power there of. <thereof:> Such abhor. <|And such avoid|>
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which enter into houses, <|from house to house|> and bring into bondage women laden with sin, which women are led of <|with|> divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 ever learning, and never able to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
2Ti 3:8 As Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, even so do these resist the truth, men they are of corrupt minds, and lewd as concerning the faith:
2Ti 3:9 but they shall prevail no longer. For their madness shall be uttered <|foolishness shall be manifest|> unto all men as theirs was:
2Ti 3:10 but thou hast seen the experience of my doctrine, ordinance, <fashion of living> purpose, faith, long suffering, love, patience,
2Ti 3:11 persecutions, and afflictions which happened unto me at Antioche, at Iconium, and at Lystra: which persecutions I suffered patiently; And from them all the Lord delivered me.
2Ti 3:12 Yea and all that will live godly in Christ Jesu, must suffer persecutions.

And again James:

Jas 2:1 Brethren have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ the Lord of glory in respect of persons.
Jas 2:2 If there come into your company a man with a golden ring, and in goodly apparel and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment,
Jas 2:3 and ye have a respect to him that weareth the gay clothing and say unto him: Sit thou here in a good place: and say unto the poor, stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:
Jas 2:4 are ye not even partial in your selves, <are ye not parciall in your selves,> and have judged after evil thoughts?

And Peter:
Ac 10:34 <[Then]> Peter opened his mouth <mought> and said: Of a truth I perceive, that God is not partial, <|God hath no respect of persons|>
Ac 10:35 but in all people he that feareth <fear> him and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.


AND THE LORD:

Matthew 23:5-33
5All their works they do, for to be seen of men. They set abroad their phylacteries, and make large borders on their garments,  6and love to sit uppermost at feasts, and to have the chief seats in the synagogues,  7and greetings in the markets and to be called of men Rabbi.  8But ye shall not suffer yourselves to be called Rabbi, for one is your master, that is to wit Christ, and all ye are brethren.  9And call ye no man your father upon the earth, for one is your father, and he is in heaven.  10Be not called masters, for one is your master, and he is Christ.  11He that is greatest among you, shall be your servant.  12But whosoever exalteth himself, shall be brought low. And he that submiteth himself, shall be exalted.  13Woe be unto you scribes and pharisees dissemblers, for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven before men: ye yourselves go not in, neither suffer ye them that come to enter in.  14Woe be unto you scribes and pharisees, for ye devour widows' houses, and that under a colour of praying long prayers, wherefore ye shall receive greater damnation.  15Woe be unto you scribes and pharisees hypocrites, for ye compass sea and land, to bring one into your belief: and when ye have brought him ye make him two fold more the child of hell, than ye yourselves are.  16Woe be unto you blind guides, for ye say: whosoever swear by the temple, it is nothing: but whosoever swear by the gold of the temple, he is debtor.  17Ye fools and blind? whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold.  18And whosoever sweareth by the altar it is nothing: but whosoever sweareth by the offering that lieth on the altar is debtor.  19Ye fools and blind: whether is greater the offering, or the altar which sanctifieth the offering?  20whosoever therefore sweareth by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all that thereon is.  21And whosoever sweareth by the temple sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.  22And he that sweareth by heaven, sweareth by the seat of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.  23Woe be to you scribes and pharisees dissemblers, for ye tithe mint, anise, and cummin, and leave the weightier matters of the law undone: judgement, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to have left the other undone.  24Ye blind guides, which strain out a gnat, and swallow a camel.  25Woe be to you scribes and pharisees hypocrites, for ye make clean the outer side of the cup, and of the platter: but within they are full of bribery and excess.  26Thou blind pharisee, cleanse first, that which is within the cup and the platter, that the outside may also be clean.  27Woe be to you scribes, and pharisees hypocrites, for ye are like unto painted tombs which appear beautiful outwards: but are within full of dead men's bones and of all filthiness.  28So are ye, for outward ye appear righteous unto men, when within ye are full of dissimulation and iniquity.  29Woe be unto you scribes and pharisees hypocrites, for ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchers of just men,  30and say: If we had been in our fathers' time, we would not have been partners with them in the blood of the prophets.  31So are ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them, which killed the prophets.  32Fulfil ye likewise the measure of your fathers:  33ye serpents and generation of vipers, how shall ye scape the damnation of hell?  


Jas 2:1 Brethren have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ the Lord of glory in respect of persons. (Ac 10:34, Ro 2:11, Col 3:25..)

(Otherwise, that's as treasonous as giving a bomb to a terrorist!)



1 Corinthians 8:2
If any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.
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But if any man love God, the same is known of him. 1Co 8:3


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Jude 1:15-19) 15To execute judgment upon all and to convict all the impious (unholy ones) of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed [in such an] ungodly [way], and of all the severe (abusive, jarring) things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.
16These are inveterate murmurers (grumblers) who complain [of their lot in life], going after their own desires [controlled by their passions]; their talk is boastful and arrogant, [and they claim to] admire men's persons and pay people flattering compliments to gain advantage.
17But you must remember, beloved, the predictions which were made by the apostles (the special messengers) of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).
18They told you beforehand, In the last days (in the end time) there will be scoffers [who seek to gratify their own unholy desires], following after their own ungodly passions.
19It is these who are [agitators] setting up distinctions and causing divisions--merely sensual [creatures, carnal, worldly-minded people], devoid of the [Holy] Spirit and destitute of any higher spiritual life.


Jude 1:20-25
20But ye dearly beloved, edify yourselves in your most wholy faith, praying in the wholy ghost,  21and keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, unto eternal life.  22And have compassion on some, separating them:  23and other save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, ([and have compassion on the other]) and hate the filthy vesture of the flesh.  24Unto him that is able to keep you, that ye fall not, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with joy, ([at the coming of oure lorde Iesu Christ])  25that is to say, to God our saviour ([thorow Iesus Christ oure lord]) which only is wise, be glory, majesty, dominion, and power, ([before all worldes]) now and for ever Amen. Here ends the epistle of Judas  



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Eph 6:12 For our test is not against flesh and blood, but with governments, with the authorities, with the rulers of this world who permeate the darkness, with the spiritual things of the wicked in the heavenlies.


Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood: but against rule, against power, <|[namely]|> and against worldly rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in <for> heavenly things. <|under the heaven|>
Eph 6:13 For this cause take unto you the armour of God, that ye may be able to resist in the evil day, and to stand perfect in all things.
Eph 6:14 Stand therefore and your loins gird about with verity, <|trueth|> having on the breastplate of righteousness,
Eph 6:15 and shod with shoes prepared by the gospel <gospell> of peace.
Eph 6:16 Above all take to you the shield of faith, wherewith ye may quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of health, <salvation> and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God,
Eph 6:18 and pray always with all manner prayer and supplication: and that in the spirit: and watch thereunto with all instance and supplication for all saints,
Eph 6:19 and for me, that utterance <|the word|> may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth <mought> boldly, to utter the secrets of the gospel, <gospell>
Eph 6:20 whereof I am a messenger in bonds, that therein I may speak freely, as it becometh me to speak.

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James 4:1 ? Whence wars and whence fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your pleasures that war in your members?
2 Ye strongly desire, and have not: ye murder, and you are zealous, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask wickedly, so that ye may waste it upon your pleasures.
4 Adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? if whoever therefore may wish to be a friend of the world is rendered the enemy of God.


Have you not heard:

John 3:12-21
12If I have told you earthly things and ye have not believe: How should ye believe if I shall tell you of heavenly things?  13And no man ascendeth up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, that is to say, the son of man which is in heaven.  14And as Moses lift up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the son of man be lift up,  15that none which believeth in him perish: but have eternal life.  16 God so loved the world, that he gave his only son for the intent, that none that believe in him, should perish: But should have everlasting life.  17For God sent not his son into the world, to condemn the world: But that the world through him, might be saved.   18He that believeth on him shall not be condemned. But he that believeth not, is condemned all ready, because he believeth not in the name of the only son of God.  19And this is the condemnation: Light is come into the world, and the men have loved darkness more than light, because their deeds were evil.  20For every man that evil doeth, hateth the light: neither cometh to light, lest his deeds should be reproved.  21But he that doth truth, cometh to the light, that his deeds might be known, how that they are wrought in God.  



Friendship of the world is in the context of how James had said prior:
James 3:7-18
7All the natures of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and things of the sea, are meeked and tamed of the nature of man.  8But the tongue can no man tame. It is an unruly evil full of deadly poison.  9Therewith bless we God the father, and therewith curse we men which are made after the ([image and]) similitude of God.  10Out of one mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren these things ought not so to be.  11Doth a fountain send forth at one place sweet water, and bitter also?  12Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries: other a vine bear figs? So can no fountain give both salt water and fresh also.  13Who is wise and endued with learning among you? Let him shew the works of his good conversation in meekness that is coupled with wisdom.  14But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, rejoice not: neither be liars against the truth.  15This wisdom descendeth not from above: but is earthy, and natural, and devilish:  16For where envying and strife is, there is unstableness, and all manner of evil works:  17but the wisdom that is from above, is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without judging, and without simulation:  18yea, and the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace, of them that keep peace.  


And likewise how Paul also exhorts:
Romans 1:14-32
14For I am debtor both to the greeks, and to them which are no greeks, unto the learned and also unto the unlearned.   15Likewise, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the Gospell to you of Rome also.  16For I am not ashamed of the Gospell of Christ, because it is the power of God unto salvation to all that believe, namely to the jew, and also to the gentile.  17For by it the righteousness which cometh of God is opened, from faith to faith. As it is written: The just shall live by faith.  18For the wrath of God of heaven appeareth against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men which withhold the truth in unrighteousness,  19seeing that that, which may be known of God, is manifest among them. For God did shew it unto them.  20For his invisible things (that is to say, his eternal power and godhead) are understood and seen, by the works from the creation of the world. So that they are without excuse,  21inasmuch as when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful, but waxed full of vanities in their imaginations. And their foolish hearts were blinded.  22When they counted themselves wise, they became fools  23and turned the glory of the immortal God, unto the similitude of the image of mortal man, and of birds, and four footed beasts and serpents.  24For this cause God gave them up unto their hearts' lusts, unto uncleanness to defile their own bodies between themselves:  25which turned his truth unto a lie, and worshipped and served the creatures more than the maker, which is blessed forever Amen.  26For this cause God gave them up unto shameful lusts. For even their women did change the natural use unto the unnatural.  27And likewise also the men left the natural use of the woman, and brent in lust one on another among themselves. And man with man wrought filthiness, and received in themselves the reward of their error as it was according.  28And as it seemed not good unto them to be aknown of God, even so God delivered them up unto a lewd mind, that they should do those things which were not comely,  29being full of all unrighteous doing, of fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, evil conditioned whisperers,  30backbiters, haters of God, doers of wrong, proud, boasters, bringers up of evil things, disobedient to fathers and mothers,  31without understanding, covenant breakers, unloving, stubborn and merciless.  32Which men, though they knew the righteousness of God, ([considered not]) how that they which such things commit are worthy of death, yet not only ([they that]) do the same, but also ([they which]) had pleasure in them that did them.  


Thus being a friend of the world for what is right is not the same as a friend of the world for what is wrong.


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2Co 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, our army is not according to flesh:4 (For the armor of our warfare is not fleshly, but mighty in God to the ruin of fortifications;)
5 Lowering reasonings, and every height exalted against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 Andin preperationhaving to punish every disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.


1Co 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses: Thou shall not muzzle <mosell> the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take thought for oxen?
1Co 9:10 Either <|Or|> saith he it not all together for our sakes? For our sakes no doubt this is written: that he which eareth should ear in <|upon|> hope: and that he which thresheth in <|upon|> hope, should <|that he might|> be partaker of his hope.
1Co 9:11 If we sow unto you spiritual things: is it a great thing if we reap your carnal things?

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1Pe 2:15 Thus so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may muzzle the ignorance of unwise men:


muzzle? you mean like the inquisition doth to those brave enough with love to warn you way ahead of time.
Yea, hear ye this:

Once upon a time an envious Pope had excomunicated a great King and captured his whole court to confess their sins by torture.. but when they got to the King, the great King was filled with the wholy ghost and said to the pope's nimrods:
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LET THE POPE GO THOROW THE SAME TEST THAT YOU GIVE ME, AND SEE WHO GOD HATH FAVOR.
So they put both the Pope and the great King in a heap of wood surrounded by water and lit it up. LO and BEHOLD the Pope was a burning in no time, and though nobody cared to take a boat to save the King, the great King still bravely stood his ground and said to all the nimrods standing round about:
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VERGONHA, VERGONHA

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Oh the SHAME, the dishonourable SHAME



1Pe 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye should stop the mouths of ignorant men: <that ye put to silence the ignorance of the foolish men:>
1Pe 2:16 as free, and not as though ye took <having the> liberty for a cloak of maliciousness: <|wickedness|> but even as the servants of God.
1Pe 2:17 See that ye honour all men. Love brotherly fellowship, fear God, and honour the King.

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He answered, and said unto me: This is the word of the LORD unto Zorobabel, saying: Neither thorow an host of men, nor thorow strength, but thorow my spirit, sayeth the LORD of Hosts.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: I Promise Reply with quote

Gal 4:16Have I then become your enemy by telling the truth to you and dealing sincerely with you?

Did the hanging of Christ come by Rulers of the world or God?
Ac 5:27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,
28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man?s blood upon us 29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Who had the power and authority?
Lu 20:20 And they watched him, and sent forth spies, which should feign themselves just men, that they might take hold of his words, that so they might deliver him unto the power and authority of the governor.

God controls the Rulers, Policemen, Soldiers, so do good and fear the AUTHORITIES, for they are LOWER then all creatures, but have the Authority of God's vengence!

Na 1:2 God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.

2 Pet 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

WHO blasted New Orleans with a hurricane?
If you have ever been there, it is worse than Sodom and Gomorrha,


Gal 4: 4But when the proper time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born subject to [the regulations of] the Law,
5In order that those who were subject to the Law, he might buy back (redeem) so that the adoption we might accept [and be recognized as God's sons].
6Because you [really] are [His] sons, he sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying out, Abba (Father)! The Father!
7 So that if no longer a slave (bond servant) but a son; but if a son, then [it follows that you are] also an heir through God.
8But indeed then not knowing God you [Gentiles] were a slave to those gods who by their very nature could not be gods at all [gods that really did not exist].
9But now, having known God more, and having been known by God, how can you return again to the weak and poor rudimentary things [of all religions before Christ came], to which again as at first you once more wish to serve?
10You closely watch [particular] days and months and seasons and years!
11I am fearful [about you], lest in vain I have tired in labor for you.

(II Peter 1:12).
So I intend always to remind you about these things, although indeed you know them and are firm in the truth that [you] now [hold].
Matt 7:19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire.

2 Corinthians 10: 7Look at [this obvious fact] which is before your eyes. If anyone is confident that he is Christ's, let him reflect and remind himself that even as he is Christ's, so too are we.

13We, on the other hand, will not boast beyond our legitimate province and proper limit, but will keep within the limits [of our commission which] God has allotted us as our measuring line and which reaches and includes even you.

Galatians 3:17-29 17This is my argument: The Law, which began 430 years after the covenant, does not and cannot annul the covenant previously established (ratified) by God, so as to abolish the promise and make it void. Exodus 12:40; Genesis 15:13

18For if the inheritance [of the promise depends on observing] the Law [as these false teachers would like you to believe], it no longer [depends] on the promise; however, God gave it to Abraham [as a free gift solely] by virtue of His promise.

19What then was the purpose of the Law? It was for favor to apply [later on, after the promise, to disclose and expose to men their guilt] because of transgressions and [to make men more conscious of the sinfulness] of sin; and it was intended to be in effect until ever the Seed (the Descendant, the Heir) come, to and concerning Whom the promise had been made.

And it was arranged by means of angels [and was given] by the hand (in the person) of a go-between [Moses, an intermediary person between God and man].

20Now a go-between (intermediary) has to do with and implies more than one party [there can be no mediator with just one person]. But God is one [and He was the sole party in giving that promise to Abraham.]
[color=red]21Is the Law then contrary and opposed to the promises of God?[/color] Do not let it be. For if a Law had been given which could restore life, truly then it was righteousness.
22But the Scriptures were to be completed together with all things under sin, in order that [the inheritance] which was promised by faith in Jesus Christ (the Messiah) might be given (released, delivered, and committed) to [all] those who believe [who adhere to and trust in and rely on Him].

23But before the faith came, we were guarded under the Law, being completed together in preparation for the faith that was about to be revealed (unveiled),
24So that the Law served [a][to us Jews] as our child-trainer to Christ, to lead us] until Christ [came], that by faith we might be justified (declared righteous, put in right standing with God)

25But now that the faith has come, we are no longer under a child-trainer.
26You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
27For as many [of you] as were baptized into Christ [into a spiritual union and communion with Christ, the Anointed One, the Messiah] have put on (clothed yourselves with) Christ.
28There is [now no distinction] neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is not male and female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29And if you belong to Christ [are in Him Who is Abraham's Seed], then you are Abraham's seed, heirs according to promise.

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1Ch 15:19 So the singers, Heman, Asaph, and Ethan, were appointed to sound with cymbals of brass;
1Ch 25:5 All these were the sons of HEMAN, THE KING'S SEER IN THE WORDS OF GOD
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Re: I Promise Reply with quote

heman wrote:
Gal 4:16Have I then become your enemy by telling the truth to you and dealing sincerely with you?


The truth is that I love you and your ill daughter to warn you ahead of time.. that if we really love each-other, we ought to tremble even to our bone and marrow in fear of God our health.

Hebrews 4:12
for the word of God is quick, and mighty in operation, and sharper than any two edged sword: and entereth through, even unto the dividing a sunder of the soul and the spirit and of the joints, and the mary: and judgeth the thoughts and the intents of the heart.


Code:
Heb 7:9 And to say the truth, Levi him self also which receiveth tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
Heb 7:10 For he was yet in the loins of his father Abraham, when Melchisedech met him.
Heb 7:11 If now therefore perfection came by the priesthood of the levites (for under that priesthood the people received the law) what needed it furthermore that another priest should rise, after the order of Melchisedech, and not after the order of Aaron?
Heb 7:12 Now no doubt, if the priesthood be translated, then of necessity must the law be translated also.
Heb 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken, pertaineth unto another tribe, of which, never man served at the altar.
Heb 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprung of the tribe of Juda, of <|to the|> which tribe spake Moses nothing concerning priesthood.
Heb 7:15 And it is yet a more evident thing, if after the similitude of Melchisedech there arise another priest,
Heb 7:16 which is not made after the law of the carnal commandment: but after the power of the endless life.
Heb 7:17 For he testifieth: Thou art a priest for ever, after the order of Melchisedech.
Heb 7:18 Then the commandment that went afore, is disannulled, because of his <her> weakness and unprofitableness.
Heb 7:19 For the law made no thing perfect: but was an introduction of a better hope, by which hope, we draw nigh unto God.
Heb 7:20 And for this cause it is a better hope, that it was not promised without an oath.
Heb 7:21 Those priests were made without an oath: but this priest with an oath, by him that said unto him: The Lord sware, and will not repent: Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedech:
Heb 7:22 And for that cause was Jesus <|Thus is Iesus become|> a stablisher of <|of so much|> a better testament.
Heb 7:23 And among them many were made priests, because they were not suffered to endure by the reason of death.
Heb 7:24 But this man, because he endureth ever, hath an everlasting priesthood:
Heb 7:25 Wherefore he is able also ever to save them that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth, to make intercession for us.
Heb 7:26 Such an high priest it becometh <became> us to have, which is wholy, <holy> harmless, <|innocent|> undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than heaven.
Heb 7:27 Which needeth not daily (as yonder high priests) to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's sins. For that did he at once for all, when he offered up himself:
Heb 7:28 For the law maketh men priests, which have infirmity: but the word of the oath that came since the law, maketh the son priest, which is perfect for evermore.


If you lived up to your promise to tell the truth (nothing but the truth) the whole truth so help you God, you would give a proper answer to the replies one point at a time, and not keep changing subject.
Why do you accuse Lincoln of killing others, but don't consider that so did Saul before he became Paul whom you quote. For what the Scripture says as a whole, it also speaks to you too. Repent likewise, as you neither speak for Paul nor the Scriptures when what you say conflicts with it as a whole. Even if you utilize 99% of the truth; it's the 1% poison (the misunderstanding that you willingly don't acknowledge) amidst the good sustenance that makes you a liar as you love to translate of being devoted to destruction.

Peter himself acknowledged that he didn't understand everything, but he honoured the sovereign providence of God in others, yea even Saul of Tarsus (that consented to many devout believer's death) who like Lincoln at first commited dire things that he later repented of, and God was very gracious to grant mercy when even believers didn't because of their lack of faith.

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2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack to fulfil his promise as some men count slackness: but is patient to us ward and would have no man lost, but would receive all men to repentance. <|and will not that any man should be lost, but that every man should amend himself|>
2Pe 3:10 Nevertheless the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in the which day, the heavens shall perish with terrible <|a great|> noise, and the elements shall melt with heat, and the earth with the works that are therein shall burn.
2Pe 3:11 If all these things shall perish, what manner persons ought ye to be in holy conversation, and godliness:
2Pe 3:12 looking for, and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, <|coming of the LORDE|> in which the heavens shall perish with fire, and the elements shall be consumed <|elements shall melt|> with heat.
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we look for a new heaven, and a new earth, according to his promise, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2Pe 3:14 Wherefore dearly beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot and undefiled:
2Pe 3:15 And suppose that the long suffering of the Lord is health, <salvation> even as our dearly beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given unto him, wrote to you,
2Pe 3:16 yea, almost in every pistel <almost in very pistle> speaking of such things: among which are many things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned, and unstable pervert, as they do other scriptures unto their own destruction. <|also, to their own damnation|>




Code:
1Co 10:18 Behold Israel which walketh carnally. <|after the flesh|> Are not they which eat of the sacrifice, partakers of the altar?
1Co 10:19 What say I then? that the image <|Idoll|> is anything? or that it which is offered to images <|the Idoll|> is anything?
1Co 10:20 Nay, but I say, that those <these> things which the gentiles <|Heathen|> offer, they offer to devils, and not to God. And I would not that ye should have fellowship with the devils.
1Co 10:21 Ye cannot drink of the cup of the Lord, and of the cup of the devils. Ye can not be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
1Co 10:22 Other <Either> shall we provoke the Lord? other <Or> are we stronger than he?
1Co 10:23 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient. <|I may do all things, but all things are not profitable|> All things are lawful, <[to me]> but all things edify not.
1Co 10:24 Let no man seek his own profit: but let every man seek his neighbors <seek another's> wealth.


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Heman wrote:

Did the hanging of Christ come by Rulers of the world or God?


Joh 19:10 Then said Pilate unto him: Speakest thou not unto me? Knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to loose thee?
Joh 19:11 Jesus answered: Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given unto thee from above. Therefore he that delivered me unto thee, is more in sin.


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Heman wrote:

Ac 5:27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,
28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man?s blood upon us 29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Who had the power and authority?


I will also ask you a certain thing, and answer ye me, and I will tell you by who's authority and power.
Whether was the death of Abraham Lincoln from heaven, or of men? Answer me.


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Heman wrote:

Lu 20:20 And they watched him, and sent forth spies, which should feign themselves just men, that they might take hold of his words, that so they might deliver him unto the power and authority of the governor.

God controls the Rulers, Policemen, Soldiers, so do good and fear the AUTHORITIES, for they are LOWER then all creatures, but have the Authority of God's vengence!


Please don't put misrepresented words in the Testament's mouth:
Romans 13:1-8
1Let every soul submit himself unto the authority of the higher powers. There is no power but of God. The powers that be, are ordained of God.  2Whosoever therefore resisteth power, resisteth the ordinance of God. They that resist, shall receive to themselves damnation.  3For rulers are not to be feared for good works but for evil. Wilt thou be without fear of the power? Do well then: and so shalt thou be praised of the same.  4For he is the minister of God, for thy wealth. But and if thou do evil, then fear: for he beareth not a sword for nought; for he is the minister of God, to take vengeance on them that do evil.  5Wherefore ye must needs obey, not for fear of vengeance only: but also because of conscience.  6 Even for this cause pay ye tribute. For they are God's ministers, serving for the same purpose.  7Give to every man therefore his duty: Tribute to whom tribute belongeth: Custom to whom custom is due: fear to whom fear belongeth: Honour to whom honour pertaineth.  8Owe no thing to any man: but to love one another. For he that loveth another, fulfilleth the law.  
Titus 3:1-8
1Warn them that they submit themselves to rule and power, to obey the officers, that they be prompt unto all good works,  2that they speak evil of no man, that they be no fighters, but soft, shewing all meekness unto all men.  3For we ourselves also were in times past, unwise, disobedient, deceived, in danger to lusts, and to divers manners of voluptuousness, living in maliciousness and envy, full of hate, hating one another.  4But after that the kindness and love of our saviour to man ward appeared,  5not of the deeds of righteousness which we wrought, but of his mercy, he saved us, by the fountain of the new birth, and with the renewing of the holy ghost,  6which he shed on us abundantly, thorow Jesus Christ our saviour,  7that we once justified by his grace, should be heirs of eternal life, thorow hope.  8This is a true saying. Of these things I would thou shouldest certify, that they which believe God, might be studious to go forward in good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.  


In Christ there is justice and liberty for all. Notwithstanding, serious matters require serious language:
How dare you dishonor the brave men and women in uniform by saying
HEman wrote:
..they are LOWER then all creatures!
I say rather it's thanks to them who even put their lives on the line (day in and day out) to keep even your sorry butt at liberty!

1Ti 1:8 We know that the law is god, <good> if a man use it lawfully,
1Ti 1:9 understanding this, how that the law is not given unto a righteous man, but unto the unrighteous and disobedient, to the ungodly and to sinners, to unholy and unclean, to murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, to manslayers
1Ti 1:10 and whoremongers: to them that defile themselves with mankind: to menstealers: to liars and to perjured, and so forth if there be any other thing that is contrary to wholesome doctrine
1Ti 1:11 according to the glorious gospel of the holy God, <the gospell of the glory of the blessed God> which gospel <gospell> is committed unto me.
1Ti 1:12 And I thank him that hath made me strong in Christ Jesu our Lord: <And i thank Christ Iesus our Lorde which hath made me strong:> for he counted me true, and put me in office,
1Ti 1:13 when before I was a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and a tyrant. Nevertheless <But> I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly, in <thorow> unbelief:
1Ti 1:14 but <Neverthelater> the grace of our Lord was more abundant, with faith and love, which is in Christ Jesu.
1Ti 1:15 This is a true saying, and by all means worthy to be received, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief:
1Ti 1:16 Notwithstanding unto me was mercy given, <for this cause was mercy given unto me> <|obtained I mercy|> that Jesus Christ should first <|might principally|> shew on <|in|> me all long patience, unto the ensample of them which shall in time to come believe on <|which should believe in|> him unto eternal life.
1Ti 1:17 So then unto God, King everlasting, immortal, invisible, and wise only, be honour and praise for ever and ever Amen.

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He answered, and said unto me: This is the word of the LORD unto Zorobabel, saying: Neither thorow an host of men, nor thorow strength, but thorow my spirit, sayeth the LORD of Hosts.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: I Promise Reply with quote

JAdmin wrote:
heman wrote:
Gal 4:16Have I then become your enemy by telling the truth to you and dealing sincerely with you?


The truth is that I love you and your ill daughter to warn you ahead of time.. that if we really love each-other, we ought to tremble even to our bone and marrow in fear of God our health.
Bless you brother for your kindness and expanding knowledge in Christ the Lord of us!
However, read on.....
Principles of Military Service and the Disciple of Christ
1. Put Christ First
2. Not to Kill, murder or avenge
3. Apart from this world living in Christ
4. Resist not Evil
5. Obey all Laws unless they conflict with the Laws of God

JAdmin wrote:
Hebrews 4:12
for the word of God is quick, and mighty in operation, and sharper than any two edged sword: and entereth through, even unto the dividing a sunder of the soul and the spirit and of the joints, and the mary: and judgeth the thoughts and the intents of the heart.


Code:
Heb 7:9 And to say the truth, Levi him self also which receiveth tithes, paid tithes in Abraham.
Heb 7:10 For he was yet in the loins of his father Abraham, when Melchisedech met him.
Heb 7:11 If now therefore perfection came by the priesthood of the levites (for under that priesthood the people received the law) what needed it furthermore that another priest should rise, after the order of Melchisedech, and not after the order of Aaron?
Heb 7:12 Now no doubt, if the priesthood be translated, then of necessity must the law be translated also.
Heb 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken, pertaineth unto another tribe, of which, never man served at the altar.
Heb 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprung of the tribe of Juda, of <|to the|> which tribe spake Moses nothing concerning priesthood.
Heb 7:15 And it is yet a more evident thing, if after the similitude of Melchisedech there arise another priest,
Heb 7:16 which is not made after the law of the carnal commandment: but after the power of the endless life.
Heb 7:17 For he testifieth: Thou art a priest for ever, after the order of Melchisedech.
Heb 7:18 Then the commandment that went afore, is disannulled, because of his <her> weakness and unprofitableness.
Heb 7:19 For the law made no thing perfect: but was an introduction of a better hope, by which hope, we draw nigh unto God.
Heb 7:20 And for this cause it is a better hope, that it was not promised without an oath.
Heb 7:21 Those priests were made without an oath: but this priest with an oath, by him that said unto him: The Lord sware, and will not repent: Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedech:
Heb 7:22 And for that cause was Jesus <|Thus is Iesus become|> a stablisher of <|of so much|> a better testament.
Heb 7:23 And among them many were made priests, because they were not suffered to endure by the reason of death.
Heb 7:24 But this man, because he endureth ever, hath an everlasting priesthood:
Heb 7:25 Wherefore he is able also ever to save them that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth, to make intercession for us.
Heb 7:26 Such an high priest it becometh <became> us to have, which is wholy, <holy> harmless, <|innocent|> undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than heaven.
Heb 7:27 Which needeth not daily (as yonder high priests) to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's sins. For that did he at once for all, when he offered up himself:
Heb 7:28 For the law maketh men priests, which have infirmity: but the word of the oath that came since the law, maketh the son priest, which is perfect for evermore.

If you lived up to your promise to tell the truth (nothing but the truth) the whole truth so help you God, you would give a proper answer to the replies one point at a time, and not keep changing subject.
Why do you accuse Lincoln of killing others, but don't consider that so did Saul before he became Paul whom you quote. For what the Scripture says as a whole, it also speaks to you too. Repent likewise, as you neither speak for Paul nor the Scriptures when what you say conflicts with it as a whole. Even if you utilize 99% of the truth; it's the 1% poison (the misunderstanding that you willingly don't acknowledge) amidst the good sustenance that makes you a liar as you love to translate of being devoted to destruction.

1 Cor 1:28-31
28And God also selected (deliberately chose) what in the world is lowborn and insignificant and branded and treated with contempt, even the things that are nothing, that He might depose and bring to nothing the things that are,

29So that no mortal man should [have pretense for glorying and] boast in the presence of God.

30But it is from Him that you have your life in Christ Jesus, Whom God made our Wisdom from God, [revealed to us a knowledge of the divine plan of salvation previously hidden, manifesting itself as] our Righteousness [thus making us upright and putting us in right standing with God], and our Consecration [making us pure and holy], and our Redemption [providing our ransom from eternal penalty for sin].

31So then, as it is written, Let him who boasts and proudly rejoices and glories, boast and proudly rejoice and glory in the Lord.

JAdmin wrote:
Peter himself acknowledged that he didn't understand everything, but he honoured the sovereign providence of God in others, yea even Saul of Tarsus (that consented to many devout believer's death) who like Lincoln at first commited dire things that he later repented of, and God was very gracious to grant mercy when even believers didn't because of their lack of faith.
Perhaps Lincoln repented as did Saul.
As Saul, Paul was acting on behalf of the ROMAN President, and only "carrying out Orders".
Acts 7:58Then they dragged him out of the city and began to stone him, and the witnesses placed their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul.
Acts 8:1AND SAUL was [not only] consenting to [Stephen's] death [he was [a]pleased and entirely approving]. On that day a great and severe persecution broke out against the church which was in Jerusalem; and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles (special messengers).
59And while they were[b] stoning Stephen
, he prayed, Lord Jesus, receive and accept and welcome my spirit!
JAdmin wrote:

Quote:
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack to fulfil his promise as some men count slackness: but is patient to us ward and would have no man lost, but would receive all men to repentance. <|and will not that any man should be lost, but that every man should amend himself|>
2Pe 3:10 Nevertheless the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in the which day, the heavens shall perish with terrible <|a great|> noise, and the elements shall melt with heat, and the earth with the works that are therein shall burn.
2Pe 3:11 If all these things shall perish, what manner persons ought ye to be in holy conversation, and godliness:
2Pe 3:12 looking for, and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, <|coming of the LORDE|> in which the heavens shall perish with fire, and the elements shall be consumed <|elements shall melt|> with heat.
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we look for a new heaven, and a new earth, according to his promise, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2Pe 3:14 Wherefore dearly beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot and undefiled:
2Pe 3:15 And suppose that the long suffering of the Lord is health, <salvation> even as our dearly beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given unto him, wrote to you,
2Pe 3:16 yea, almost in every pistel <almost in very pistle> speaking of such things: among which are many things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned, and unstable pervert, as they do other scriptures unto their own destruction. <|also, to their own damnation|>

"which they that are unlearned, and unstable pervert" so rightly said as any man who thinks that he can overpower God's plan by using military force is "among which are many things hard to be understood," "things which the gentiles <|Heathen|> offer, they offer to adversaries (Kings; Presidents;), and not to God".
JAdmin wrote:
Code:
1Co 10:18 Behold Israel which walketh carnally. <|after the flesh|> Are not they which eat of the sacrifice, partakers of the altar?
1Co 10:19 What say I then? that the image <|Idoll|> is anything? or that it which is offered to images <|the Idoll|> is anything?
1Co 10:20 Nay, but I say, that those <these> things which the gentiles <|Heathen|> offer, they offer to devils, and not to God. And I would not that ye should have fellowship with the (ADVERSARIES-those who oppose God's plan)devils.
1Co 10:21 Ye cannot drink of the cup of the Lord, and of the cup of the devils. Ye can not be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of [this world the adversaries] devils.
1Co 10:22 Other <Either> shall we provoke the Lord? other <Or> are we stronger than he?
1Co 10:23 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient. <|I may do all things, but all things are not profitable|> All things are lawful, <[to me]> but all things edify not.
1Co 10:24 Let no man seek his own profit: but let every man seek his neighbors <seek another's> wealth.

Luke 21:15For I [Myself] will give you a mouth and such utterance and wisdom that all of your foes combined will be unable to stand against or refute.
How can you "RESIST NOT EVIL" if you are in the Military?
Matt 5:38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[a] 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.
Are you one of those who would sue your neighbor because he ran over your favorite shrub?

James 2:11For He Who said, You shall not commit adultery, also said, You shall not kill. If you do not commit adultery but do kill, you have become guilty of transgressing the [whole] Law.

1 Thess 5:15 See that none of you repays another with evil for evil, but always aim to show kindness and seek to do good to one another and to everybody.
What do you teach anyway?
2 tim 2:24And the servant of the Lord must not be quarrelsome (fighting and contending). Instead, he must be kindly to everyone and mild-tempered [preserving the bond of peace]; he must be a skilled and suitable teacher, patient and forbearing and willing to suffer wrong.
Matt 26:52Then Jesus said to him, Put your sword back into its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
JAdmin wrote:

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Heman wrote:

Did the hanging of Christ come by Rulers of the world or God?


Joh 19:10 Then said Pilate unto him: Speakest thou not unto me? Knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to loose thee?
Joh 19:11 Jesus answered: Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given unto thee from above. Therefore he that delivered me unto thee, is more in sin.


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Heman wrote:

Ac 5:27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,
28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man?s blood upon us 29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Who had the power and authority?


I will also ask you a certain thing, and answer ye me, and I will tell you by who's authority and power.
Whether was the death of Abraham Lincoln from heaven, or of men? Answer me.

You already did but I will show you again:

Rom 13:1LET EVERY person be loyally subject to the governing (civil) authorities. For there is no authority except from God [by His permission, His sanction], and those that exist do so by God's appointment.

2Therefore he who resists ]{those who cause the deaths of others}and sets himself up against the authorities resists what God has appointed and arranged [/u[in divine order]. And those who resist will bring down judgment upon themselves [receiving the penalty due them].
JAdmin wrote:

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Heman wrote:

Lu 20:20 And they watched him, and sent forth spies, which should feign themselves just men, that they might take hold of his words, that so they might deliver him unto the power and authority of the governor.

God controls the Rulers, Policemen, Soldiers, so do good and fear the AUTHORITIES, for they are LOWER then all creatures, but have the Authority of God's vengence!


Please don't put misrepresented words in the Testament's mouth:
Romans 13:1-8
1Let every soul submit himself unto the authority of the higher powers. There is no power but of God. The powers that be, are ordained of God.  2Whosoever therefore resisteth power, resisteth the ordinance of God. They that resist, shall receive to themselves damnation.  3For rulers are not to be feared for good works but for evil. Wilt thou be without fear of the power? Do well then: and so shalt thou be praised of the same.  4For he is the minister of God, for thy wealth. But and if thou do evil, then fear: for he beareth not a sword for nought; for he is the minister of God, to take vengeance on them that do evil.  5Wherefore ye must needs obey, not for fear of vengeance only: but also because of conscience.  6 Even for this cause pay ye tribute. For they are God's ministers, serving for the same purpose.  7Give to every man therefore his duty: Tribute to whom tribute belongeth: Custom to whom custom is due: fear to whom fear belongeth: Honour to whom honour pertaineth.  8Owe no thing to any man: but to love one another. For he that loveth another, fulfilleth the law.  
Titus 3:1-8
1Warn them that they submit themselves to rule and power, to obey the officers, that they be prompt unto all good works,  2that they speak evil of no man, that they be no fighters, but soft, shewing all meekness unto all men.  3For we ourselves also were in times past, unwise, disobedient, deceived, in danger to lusts, and to divers manners of voluptuousness, living in maliciousness and envy, full of hate, hating one another.  4But after that the kindness and love of our saviour to man ward appeared,  5not of the deeds of righteousness which we wrought, but of his mercy, he saved us, by the fountain of the new birth, and with the renewing of the holy ghost,  6which he shed on us abundantly, thorow Jesus Christ our saviour,  7that we once justified by his grace, should be heirs of eternal life, thorow hope.  8This is a true saying. Of these things I would thou shouldest certify, that they which believe God, might be studious to go forward in good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.  

Dan 4:17This sentence is by the decree of the [heavenly] watchers and the decision is by the word of the holy ones, to the intent that the living may know that the [u]Most High [God] rules the kingdom of mankind and gives it to whomever He will
and sets over it the humblest and lowliest of men.

Dan 2:21He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and sets up kings. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding!

4:35And all the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing. And He does according to His will in the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth, and none can stay His hand or say to Him, What are You doing?
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In Christ there is justice and liberty for all. Notwithstanding, serious matters require serious language:
How dare you dishonor the brave men and women in uniform by saying
HEman wrote:
..they are LOWER then all creatures!
I say rather it's thanks to them who even put their lives on the line (day in and day out) to keep even your sorry butt at liberty!
Isa 45:7I form the light and create darkness, I make peace [national well-being] and I create [physical] evil (calamity); I am the Lord, Who does all these things.
Are you living under the Law of Moses or "THE REDEMPTION"? Do you not read? Matt 5:38You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.
39But I say to you, Do not resist the evil man [who injures you]; but if anyone strikes you on the right jaw or cheek, turn to him the other one too

Christ also annuled divorce:
Matt 5:31It has also been said, Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.
32But I tell you, Whoever dismisses and repudiates and divorces his wife, except on the grounds of unfaithfulness (sexual immorality), causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a woman who has been divorced commits adultery.

Soldiers? Were our soldiers in Iraq innocent of Rape and Murder, simply because they were just following orders? Why are our soldiers any different?
Jn 19:23Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took His garments and made four parts, one share for each soldier, and also the tunic (the long shirtlike undergarment). But the tunic was seamless, woven [in one piece] from the top throughout.
24So they said to one another, Let us not tear it, but let us cast lots to decide whose it shall be. This was to fulfill the Scripture, They parted My garments among them, and for My clothing they cast lots. So the soldiers did these things.

Ps 22:17I can count all my bones; the evildoers gaze at me.
18They{the evil soldiers} part my clothing among them and cast lots for my raiment (a long, shirtlike garment, a seamless undertunic)

Mark 8:31And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must of necessity suffer many things and be tested and disapproved and rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes, and be put to death, and after three days rise again [[a]from death].
Luke 3:14 Those serving as soldiers also asked him, And we, what shall we do? And he replied to them, Never do violence to any man or accuse wrongfully, and always be satisfied with your rations. {Till you are discharged from service for they were baptized}

Why, then does it say:
Matt 10:18And you will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a witness to bear testimony before them and to the Gentiles19But when they deliver you up, do not be anxious about how or what you are to speak; for what you are to say will be given you in that very hour
28And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; but rather be afraid of Him who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
34Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Be careful! Lest ye be found to oppose God's will.

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Jer 52:11Then he put out the eyes of Zedekiah; and the king of Babylon bound him with shackles and carried him to Babylon and put him in prison till the day of his death.

Who are the HEATHEN and the BEAST?
Ps 149:6Let the high praises of God be in their throats and a two-edged sword in their hands,
7To wreak vengeance upon the nations and chastisement upon the peoples,
8To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron,
9To execute upon them the judgment written. This is the honor of all His saints. Praise the Lord! (Hallelujah!)

Rev 19:19Then I saw the beast and the rulers and leaders of the earth with their troops mustered to go into battle and make war against Him Who is mounted on the horse and against His troops.

If your enemy is Hungry do you Shoot him and put him out of his misery?
Romans 20:20But if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head.
21Do not let yourself be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.


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1Ti 1:8 We know that the law is god, <good> if a man use it lawfully,
1Ti 1:9 understanding this, how that the law is not given unto a righteous man, but unto the unrighteous and disobedient, to the ungodly and to sinners, to unholy and unclean, to murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, to manslayers
1Ti 1:10 and whoremongers: to them that defile themselves with mankind: to menstealers: to liars and to perjured, and so forth if there be any other thing that is contrary to wholesome doctrine
1Ti 1:11 according to the glorious gospel of the holy God, <the gospell of the glory of the blessed God> which gospel <gospell> is committed unto me.
1Ti 1:12 And I thank him that hath made me strong in Christ Jesu our Lord: <And i thank Christ Iesus our Lorde which hath made me strong:> for he counted me true, and put me in office,
1Ti 1:13 when before I was a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and a tyrant. Nevertheless <But> I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly, in <thorow> unbelief:
1Ti 1:14 but <Neverthelater> the grace of our Lord was more abundant, with faith and love, which is in Christ Jesu.
1Ti 1:15 This is a true saying, and by all means worthy to be received, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief:
1Ti 1:16 Notwithstanding unto me was mercy given, <for this cause was mercy given unto me> <|obtained I mercy|> that Jesus Christ should first <|might principally|> shew on <|in|> me all long patience, unto the ensample of them which shall in time to come believe on <|which should believe in|> him unto eternal life.
1Ti 1:17 So then unto God, King everlasting, immortal, invisible, and wise only, be honour and praise for ever and ever Amen.

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1Ch 15:19 So the singers, Heman, Asaph, and Ethan, were appointed to sound with cymbals of brass;
1Ch 25:5 All these were the sons of HEMAN, THE KING'S SEER IN THE WORDS OF GOD
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: I Promise Reply with quote

Heman wrote:
How can you "RESIST NOT EVIL" if you are in the Military?


1Pe 3:17 It is better (if the will of God be so) that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.

Onely the faith of God can resist wrong, as with the heart of King David and as Christ doth with HIS sharp two edged sword.

Psalms 35:1-28
1Of David. Strive thou with them, O LORD, that strive with me, fight thou against them that fight against me.  2Lay hand upon the shield and spear, and stand up to help me.  3Draw out thy sword, and stop the way against them that persecute me, say unto my soul: I am thy help.  4Let them be confounded and put to shame, that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion, that imagine mischief for me.  5Let them be as the dust before the wind, and the angel of the LORD scattering them.  6Let their way be dark and slippery, and the angel of the LORD to persecute them.  7For they have privily laid their net to destroy me without cause, yea, and made a pit for my soul, which I never deserved.  8Let a sudden destruction come upon him unawares, and the net that he hath laid privily, catch himself, that he may fall into his own mischief.  9But let my soul be joyful in the LORD, and rejoice in his help.  10All my bones shall say: LORD, who is like unto thee? which deliverest the poor from those that are too strong for him, yea, the poor and the needy from his robbers.  11False witnesses are risen up, and lay to my charge things that I know not.  12They reward me evil for good, to the great discomforth of my soul.  13Nevertheless, when they were sick, I put on a sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting, and my prayer returned into mine own bosom.  14I behaved myself as though it had been my friend or my brother, I went heavily, as one that mourneth for his mother.  15But in mine adversity they rejoice, and gather them together: Yea, the very lame come together against me unawares, making mowes at me, and cease not.  16With the greedy and scornful hypocrites, they gnashed upon me with their teeth.  17Lord, when wilt thou look upon this? O restore my soul from the wicked rumour of them, my darling from the lions.  18So will I give thee thanks in the great congregation, and praise thee among much people.  19O let them not triumph over me, that are mine enemies for naught: O let them not wink with their eyes, that hate me without a cause.  20And why? their communing is not for peace, but they imagine false words against the outcasts of the land.  21They gape upon me with their mouths, saying: there there: we see it with our eyes.  22This thou seest, O LORD: hold not thy tongue then, go not far from me, O Lord.   23Awake Lord, and stand up: avenge thou my cause, my God, and my Lord.  24Judge me, O LORD my God, according to thy righteousness, that they triumph not over me.  25O let them not say in their hearts: there there, so would we have it: O let them not say: we have overcome him.  26Let them be put to confusion and shame, that rejoice at my trouble: let them be clothed with rebuke and dishonour, that boast themselves against me.  27Let them also be glad and rejoice, that favour my righteous dealing: yea let them say alway: blessed be the LORD, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant.  28And as for my tongue, it shall be talking of thy righteousness and of thy praise, all the day long.  

Revelation 2:12-17
12And to the angel of the congregation in Pergamos write: This saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges.  13I know thy works and where thou dwellest, even where Sathan's seat is, and thou keepest my name and hast not denied my faith. And in my days Antipas was a faithful witness of mine, which was slain among you where sathan dwelleth.  14But I have a few things against thee: that thou hast there, they that maintain, the doctrine of Balaam which taught in Balak, to put occasion of sin before the children of Israel, that they should eat of meat dedicated unto idols, and to commit fornication.  15Even so hast thou them that maintain the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.  16But repent or else I will come to thee shortly and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.  17Let him that hath ears hear what the spirit sayth unto the congregations: To him that overcometh will I give to eat Manna that is hid, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth, saving he that receiveth it.  




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Jadmin wrote:
I will also ask you a certain thing, and answer ye me, and I will tell you by who's authority and power.
Whether was the death of Abraham Lincoln from heaven, or of men? Answer me.

Heman wrote:
You already did but I will show you again:
Rom 13:1LET EVERY person be loyally subject to the governing (civil) authorities. For there is no authority except from God [by His permission, His sanction], and those that exist do so by God's appointment.

2Therefore he who resists ]{those who cause the deaths of others}and sets himself up against the authorities resists what God has appointed and arranged [/u[in divine order]. And those who resist will bring down judgment upon themselves [receiving the penalty due them].


And don't governments suppose to have appointed armies?

Heman wrote:

Soldiers? Were our soldiers in Iraq innocent of Rape and Murder, simply because they were just following orders? Why are our soldiers any different?


Who are we to speak in behalf of the soldiers! Don't armies have their generals to whom they must be accountable? And if the generals are not doing their duty then they got a higher authority that will deal with them in due course of time.

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1Co 2:12 And we have not received the spirit of the world: but the spirit which cometh of God, for to know the things that are given to us of God,
1Co 2:13 which things also we speak, not in the cunning words of man's wisdom, but with the cunning words of the holy ghost, making spiritual comparisons of spiritual things. <|and judge spiritual matters spiritually|>


Re 13:10 [u]He that leadeth into captivity, shall go into captivity
: he that killeth with a sword, must be killed with a sword. Here is the patience, and the faith <fayght> of the saints. <saynctes>

What type of sword is it talking about here?

Re 14:12 Here is the patience of saints. Here are they that keep the commandments and the faith of Jesu. <fayght of Iesu>

Psalms 17:13-15
13Up LORD, disappoint him and cast him down: deliver my soul with thy sword from the ungodly.  14From the men of thy hand (O LORD) from the men of the world, which have their portion in this life: whose bellies thou fillest with thy treasure.  15They have children at their desire, and leave the rest of their substance for their babes. But as for me, I will behold thy presence in righteousness: and when thy glory appeareth, I shall be satisfied.  

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: i fear for you .. Reply with quote

The Law and the Testament remembereth Jesu Christ alway and even him crucified for our sins; yea let it be yours or mine, the sins of Paul, Abraham Lincoln or whatever other man it be.

Jas 2:10 Whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet fail in one point, he is guilty in all.
Jas 2:11 For he that said: Thou shalt not commit fornication, <adultery> said also: thou shalt not kill. Though thou shalt do no fornication, <do none adultery> yet if thou kill, thou art a transgressor of the law.
Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Jas 2:13 For there shall be judgement merciless to him that sheweth no mercy, and mercy rejoiceth against judgement:

Jas 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands ye sinners, and purge your hearts ye wavering minded.
Jas 4:9 Suffer afflictions: sorrow ye and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.
Jas 4:10 Cast down yourselves before the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
Jas 4:11 Backbite not one another, brethren. He that backbiteth his brother, and he that judgeth his brother, backbiteth the law, and judgeth the law: but and if thou judge the law, thou art not an observer of the law: but a judge.
Jas 4:12 There is one law giver, ([and judge]) which is able to save and to destroy. What art thou that judgest another man?
Jas 4:13 Go to now ye that say: today and tomorrow let us go into such a city and continue there a year and buy, and sell, and win:
Jas 4:14 and yet cannot tell what shall happen tomorrow. For what thing is your life? it is even a vapor that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away:
Jas 4:15 For that ye ought to say: if the Lord will and if we live, let us do this or that.
Jas 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings. All such rejoicing is evil.
Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth how to do good, and doth it not, <[to him]> it is sin.

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Isa 44:21 Consider this (O Jacob and Israel) for thou art my servant. I have made thee, that thou mightest serve me. O Israel, forget me not.
Isa 44:22 As for thine offenses, I drive them away like the clouds, and thy sins as the mist. Turn ye again unto me, and I will deliver thee.
Isa 44:23 Be glad ye heavens, whom the LORD hath made, let all that is here beneath upon the earth, be joyful. Rejoice ye mountains and woods, with all the trees that are in you: for the LORD shall redeem Jacob, and shew his glory upon Israel.
Isa 44:24 For thus sayeth the LORD thy redeemer, even he that fashioned thee from thy mother's womb: I am the LORD, which do all things myself alone. I only have spread out the heavens, and I only have laid the foundation of the earth.
Isa 44:25 I destroy the tokens of witches, and make the Soothsayers go wrong. As for the wise, I turn them backward, and make their cunning foolishness.
Isa 44:26 But I set up the purpose of my servants, and fulfill the counsel of my messengers. I say unto Jerusalem: turn again: And to the cities of Juda, be ye builded again: and I repair their decayed places.
Isa 44:27 I say to the ground: be dry. And I dry up thy water floods.
Isa 44:28 I say to Cyrus: thou art mine herd man: so that he shall fulfill all things after my will. I say unto Jerusalem: be thou builded, and to the temple: be thou fast grounded.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: LOVE YA Reply with quote

How's your daughter doing?

She really must love you, and even i do Heman though I never personally met you.


Whatever our differences or misunderstandings may be, there's still only one true hope:
Yea Christ is risen from death with the same promise of liberty and justice for all.

James 5:1-20
1Go to now ye rich men. Weep, and howl on your wretchedness that shall come upon you.  2Your riches is corrupt, your garments are motheaten.  3Your gold and your silver are cankered, and the rust of them shall be a witness unto you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together ([even wrath to your selves]) in your last days:  4Behold the hire of the laborers which have reaped down your fields (which hire is of you kept back by fraud) crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped, are entered into the ears of the Lord Sabaoth.  5Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth and in wantonness. Ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.  6Ye have condemned and have killed the just, and he hath not resisted you.  7Be patient therefore brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold the husband man waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience there upon, until he receive the early and the latter rain.  8Be ye also patient therefore, and settle your hearts, for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.  9Grudge not one against another brethren, lest ye be dampned. Behold the judge standeth before the door.  10Take (my brethren) the prophets for an ensample of suffering adversity, and of long patience, which spake in the name of the Lord.  11Behold we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have known what end the Lord made. For the Lord is very pitiful, and merciful.  12But above all things my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by earth, neither by any other oath. Let your saying be yea yea, and nay nay: lest ye fall into hypocrisy.  13Is there any among of you that is evil vexed? let him pray. Is there any among you that is merry? let him sing psalms.   14Is there any man diseased among you? Let him call for the seniors of the congregation, and let them pray over him, and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord:  15and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up: and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.  16Knowledge your faults one to another: and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man availeth much, if it be fervent.  17Helias was a man in danger to tribulation as we are, and he prayed in his prayer, that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.  18And again he prayed, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.  19Brethren if any of you err from the truth, and another convert him,  20let the same know, that he which converted the sinner from going astray out of his way, shall save a soul from death, and shall hide the multitude of sins. The end of the pistel of Saynct James.  

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: I Promise Reply with quote

JAdmin wrote:
Heman wrote:
How can you "RESIST NOT EVIL" if you are in the Military?


1Pe 3:17 It is better (if the will of God be so) that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.

Onely the faith of God can resist wrong, as with the heart of King David and as Christ doth with HIS sharp two edged sword.

Psalms 35:1-28
1Of David. Strive thou with them, O LORD, that strive with me, fight thou against them that fight against me.  2Lay hand upon the shield and spear, and stand up to help me.  3Draw out thy sword, and stop the way against them that persecute me, say unto my soul: I am thy help.  4Let them be confounded and put to shame, that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion, that imagine mischief for me.  5Let them be as the dust before the wind, and the angel of the LORD scattering them.  6Let their way be dark and slippery, and the angel of the LORD to persecute them.  7For they have privily laid their net to destroy me without cause, yea, and made a pit for my soul, which I never deserved.  8Let a sudden destruction come upon him unawares, and the net that he hath laid privily, catch himself, that he may fall into his own mischief.  9But let my soul be joyful in the LORD, and rejoice in his help.  10All my bones shall say: LORD, who is like unto thee? which deliverest the poor from those that are too strong for him, yea, the poor and the needy from his robbers.  11False witnesses are risen up, and lay to my charge things that I know not.  12They reward me evil for good, to the great discomforth of my soul.  13Nevertheless, when they were sick, I put on a sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting, and my prayer returned into mine own bosom.  14I behaved myself as though it had been my friend or my brother, I went heavily, as one that mourneth for his mother.  15But in mine adversity they rejoice, and gather them together: Yea, the very lame come together against me unawares, making mowes at me, and cease not.  16With the greedy and scornful hypocrites, they gnashed upon me with their teeth.  17Lord, when wilt thou look upon this? O restore my soul from the wicked rumour of them, my darling from the lions.  18So will I give thee thanks in the great congregation, and praise thee among much people.  19O let them not triumph over me, that are mine enemies for naught: O let them not wink with their eyes, that hate me without a cause.  20And why? their communing is not for peace, but they imagine false words against the outcasts of the land.  21They gape upon me with their mouths, saying: there there: we see it with our eyes.  22This thou seest, O LORD: hold not thy tongue then, go not far from me, O Lord.   23Awake Lord, and stand up: avenge thou my cause, my God, and my Lord.  24Judge me, O LORD my God, according to thy righteousness, that they triumph not over me.  25O let them not say in their hearts: there there, so would we have it: O let them not say: we have overcome him.  26Let them be put to confusion and shame, that rejoice at my trouble: let them be clothed with rebuke and dishonour, that boast themselves against me.  27Let them also be glad and rejoice, that favour my righteous dealing: yea let them say alway: blessed be the LORD, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant.  28And as for my tongue, it shall be talking of thy righteousness and of thy praise, all the day long.  

Revelation 2:12-17
12And to the angel of the congregation in Pergamos write: This saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges.  13I know thy works and where thou dwellest, even where Sathan's seat is, and thou keepest my name and hast not denied my faith. And in my days Antipas was a faithful witness of mine, which was slain among you where sathan dwelleth.  14But I have a few things against thee: that thou hast there, they that maintain, the doctrine of Balaam which taught in Balak, to put occasion of sin before the children of Israel, that they should eat of meat dedicated unto idols, and to commit fornication.  15Even so hast thou them that maintain the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.  16But repent or else I will come to thee shortly and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.  17Let him that hath ears hear what the spirit sayth unto the congregations: To him that overcometh will I give to eat Manna that is hid, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth, saving he that receiveth it.  

Quote:
Jadmin wrote:
I will also ask you a certain thing, and answer ye me, and I will tell you by who's authority and power.
Whether was the death of Abraham Lincoln from heaven, or of men? Answer me.

Heman wrote:
You already did but I will show you again:
Rom 13:1LET EVERY person be loyally subject to the governing (civil) authorities. For there is no authority except from God [by His permission, His sanction], and those that exist do so by God's appointment.

2Therefore he who resists ]{those who cause the deaths of others}and sets himself up against the authorities resists what God has appointed and arranged [/u[in divine order]. And those who resist will bring down judgment upon themselves [receiving the penalty due them].


And don't governments suppose to have appointed armies?
Yes, on both sides they are appointed by God as his avengers. John 22:23Then the wicked soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took His garments and made four parts, one share for each soldier, and also the tunic (the long shirtlike undergarment). But the tunic was seamless, woven [in one piece] from the top throughout.

24So they said to one another, Let us not tear it, but let us cast lots to decide whose it shall be. [u]This was to fulfill the Scripture
, They parted My garments among them, and for My clothing they cast lots. So the soldiers did these things. Psalm 22:18


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Soldiers? Were our soldiers in Iraq innocent of Rape and Murder, simply because they were just following orders? Why are our soldiers any different?


Who are we to speak in behalf of the soldiers! Don't armies have their generals to whom they must be accountable? And if the generals are not doing their duty then they got a higher authority that will deal with them in due course of time.

Yes, "for they that live by the sword will die by the sword... and he reserveth wrath for his enemies."

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1Co 2:12 And we have not received the spirit of the world: but the spirit which cometh of God, for to know the things that are given to us of God,
1Co 2:13 which things also we speak, not in the cunning words of man's wisdom, but with the cunning words of the holy ghost, making spiritual comparisons of spiritual things. <|and judge spiritual matters spiritually|>



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Re 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity, shall go into captivity: he that killeth with a sword, must be killed with a sword. Here is the patience, and the faith <fayght> of the saints. <saynctes>

What type of sword is it talking about here?

3162 μαχαιρα AV-sword 1) 3162 A knife, dagger, short sword
a large knife, used for killing animals and cutting up flesh.

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Re 14:12 Here is the patience of saints. Here are they that keep the commandments and the faith of Jesu. <fayght of Iesu>
Psalms 17:13-15
13Up LORD, disappoint him and cast him down: deliver my soul with thy sword from the ungodly.  14From the men of thy hand (O LORD) from the men of the world, which have their portion in this life: whose bellies thou fillest with thy treasure.  15They have children at their desire, and leave the rest of their substance for their babes. But as for me, I will behold thy presence in righteousness: and when thy glory appeareth, I shall be satisfied.  

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If you lived up to your promise to tell the truth (nothing but the truth) the whole truth so help you God, you would give a proper answer to the replies one point at a time, and not keep changing subject.

Are you living under the Law of Moses or "THE REDEMPTION"? Do you not read? Matt 5:38You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.
39But I say to you, Do not resist the evil man [who injures you]; but if anyone strikes you on the right jaw or cheek, turn to him the other one too.
Did Paul confront and attack with his sword when the garrison of soldiers sought him?

2 cor 11:32In Damascus, the city governor acting under King Aretas guarded the city of Damascus [on purpose] to arrest me,

33And I was [actually] let down in a [rope] basket or hamper through a window (a small door) in the wall, and I escaped through his fingers.

Did Christ attack those who sought him?
John 8:59So they took up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus, by mixing with the crowd, concealed Himself and went out of the temple.

Did Christ call on his Angels for help?
Matt 26:53Do you suppose that I cannot appeal to My Father, and He will immediately provide Me with more than twelve legions [more than 80,000] of angels?

1 Cor 6:2Do you not know that the saints (the believers) will [one day] judge and govern the world? And if the world [itself] is to be judged and ruled by you, are you unworthy and incompetent to try [such petty matters] of the smallest courts of justice?

3Do you not know also that we [Christians] are to judge the [very] angels and pronounce opinion between right and wrong [for them]? How much more then [as to] matters pertaining to this world and of this life only!

4If then you do have such cases of everyday life to decide, why do you appoint [as judges to lay them before] those who [from the standpoint] of the church count for least and are without standing?

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1Ch 15:19 So the singers, Heman, Asaph, and Ethan, were appointed to sound with cymbals of brass;
1Ch 25:5 All these were the sons of HEMAN, THE KING'S SEER IN THE WORDS OF GOD
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: LOVE YA Reply with quote

JAdmin wrote:
How's your daughter doing?

She really must love you, and even i do Heman though I never personally met you.


Whatever our differences or misunderstandings may be, there's still only one true hope:
Yea Christ is risen from death with the same promise of liberty and justice for all.

James 5:1-20
1Go to now ye rich men. Weep, and howl on your wretchedness that shall come upon you.  2Your riches is corrupt, your garments are motheaten.  3Your gold and your silver are cankered, and the rust of them shall be a witness unto you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together ([even wrath to your selves]) in your last days:  4Behold the hire of the laborers which have reaped down your fields (which hire is of you kept back by fraud) crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped, are entered into the ears of the Lord Sabaoth.  5Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth and in wantonness. Ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.  6Ye have condemned and have killed the just, and he hath not resisted you.  7Be patient therefore brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold the husband man waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience there upon, until he receive the early and the latter rain.  8Be ye also patient therefore, and settle your hearts, for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.  9Grudge not one against another brethren, lest ye be dampned. Behold the judge standeth before the door.  10Take (my brethren) the prophets for an ensample of suffering adversity, and of long patience, which spake in the name of the Lord.  11Behold we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have known what end the Lord made. For the Lord is very pitiful, and merciful.  12But above all things my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by earth, neither by any other oath. Let your saying be yea yea, and nay nay: lest ye fall into hypocrisy.  13Is there any among of you that is evil vexed? let him pray. Is there any among you that is merry? let him sing psalms.   14Is there any man diseased among you? Let him call for the seniors of the congregation, and let them pray over him, and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord:  15and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up: and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.  16Knowledge your faults one to another: and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man availeth much, if it be fervent.  17Helias was a man in danger to tribulation as we are, and he prayed in his prayer, that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.  18And again he prayed, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit.  19Brethren if any of you err from the truth, and another convert him,  20let the same know, that he which converted the sinner from going astray out of his way, shall save a soul from death, and shall hide the multitude of sins. The end of the pistel of Saynct James.  

Thank you for that. You have shown your humbleness and great humility of understanding. It is heartfelt and an example that we all should follow.
We owe our Allegiance to God first, then to the preservation of His word through Tyndale and many others like him.

Cathy is fine, in fact I must pass on what she last wrote to me.
"I love you because God chose me to be your daughter. Whenever you had to leave you said "you had to see a man about a horse". Today I know who that "MAN" is, thank you God for my father." Alway in my prayers, Cathy.

Yea, Christ is ALIVE! Praise God and all the Angels!

Not many will rise in the first resurrection, the small first harvest of God's children.
Yet, those who attain to this resurrection will receive promises never again to be offered or repeated. We could be the very Bride of Christ, if we do not despise our calling. We could work intimately with the King of kings as a leader and ruler of several cities of our own in a glorious Millennial world, if we do not sell out for our "bowl of lentils.

"We could be crowned with a diadem designed by the Master Designer with our new name inscribed on it, if we do not become blotted out of the Book of Life because of rebellion against God. God has called us to eternal life full of joyful, pleasurable experiences for all eternity (Psalm 16:11).

God says, "The meek inherit the whole earth" (Psalm 37:11; Matthew 5:5), but He does not stop there. He has already told us that we are not to inherit just some land here on earth promised to Abraham, but we are co-heirs with him through Jesus, slated to inherit the earth and rule over everything (Hebrews 2:8)!

We could hear our Master announce, "Well done, good and faithful servant," or we could hear, "Depart from Me, I have never known you." The choice is ours at this point. God calls us His children, and "adopted sons" therefore we are heirs of God and joint-heirs with Abraham through Christ of everything God has and everything God is (Romans 8:16-17)!

Inheriting birthrights sometimes means having to sacrifice profoundly and give up the pleasures and desires of the here and now world, as Moses did (Hebrews 11:24-27). Moses took the long view, "for he endured as seeing Him who is invisible" (verse 27). We have to see God in all this and recognize what "gift" He is handing to us. Then, if we humbly accept it, we are to hang on to it for dear life!

Gen 25:(34) Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentils; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.

Our birthright is a once-in-eternity opportunity, offered by One who cannot lie!

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1Ch 15:19 So the singers, Heman, Asaph, and Ethan, were appointed to sound with cymbals of brass;
1Ch 25:5 All these were the sons of HEMAN, THE KING'S SEER IN THE WORDS OF GOD
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